r/emulation•u/Sudoh267•Feb 14 '21
I’m going to leave myself anonymous and make this blunt, so basically what happened was this account called PineappleEA submitted Linux fixes for Yuzu and they refused to merge those fixes for so long and their reasoning was because they distribute Yuzu EA on pineappleea.github.io but the thing is, is that it’s not illegal to distribute EA and it’s there mainly for Linux users because they refuse to make an actual downloader for Linux hence why PinEApple was created, yesterday night Bunnei the lead Yuzu developer decided to take their code and remove PinEApple’s name off it and claim it as his code
Note: this is all legal under Yuzu’s CLA it’s just morally wrongAll I want is to raise awareness about what the CLA is capable of.
Here is all of the Pull Requests Bunnei stole from them (btw these are all hidden, Bunnei hid them)(https://github.com/yuzu-emu/yuzu/pull/5274)(https://github.com/yuzu-emu/yuzu/pull/5328)(https://github.com/yuzu-emu/yuzu/pull/5830)(https://github.com/yuzu-emu/yuzu/pull/5337)(https://github.com/yuzu-emu/yuzu/pull/5364)
The commit made by Bunnei(https://github.com/yuzu-emu/yuzu/commit/eae9f2e4404f6bdf8a192bc9c09e53cd87e4359d)
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u/Vegetable_Aardvark_4Feb 15 '21
You closed their PR and shut them down. If they complained further, you would have locked the PR.
The mental gymnastic here is staggering.
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u/GoldenX86Yuzu Team: WriterFeb 15 '21
There was no complain, there was no word on anything, for a month. We moved on.
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u/Vegetable_Aardvark_4Feb 15 '21
Despite the disagreements we’ve had, I’ll accept what you’ve said about communication because I don’t know any better.
Still, yoinking the PR and putting your own name (or was it bunnie?) is wrong, especially if it was because of that absurd policy.
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u/GoldenX86Yuzu Team: WriterFeb 15 '21
We were all this time debating what to do with the PR while waiting for a reply.
Trashing it was a waste, but we won't merge it from an account like that.
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u/Vegetable_Aardvark_4Feb 15 '21
I can see how you’d be upset by some of the arguments on this thread if that’s the case. Did you ask specifically if they would be fine merging without their credit and wait a long time? If so I don’t see anything outrageously wrong about what happened.
The real problem is the aforementioned PR submission rule that created this situation in the first place. I just find it problematic that your team has a problem with people distributing open source executables with goodness of heart.
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u/GoldenX86Yuzu Team: WriterFeb 15 '21
We asked if they could PR this with a different account, and clarified the reasons why the one used was not valid. A month passed by.
I understand that people want their free EA (no one can wait for something to be merged in a better, more stable state in mainline, same thing happens to Cemu, I've heard), but in our GitHub we have the right to defend the monetization system we are using, you have no idea how much it helps, specially our GPU developer, my brother.
I could write a sad story of how expensive is to have a PC in Argentina, specially one to do graphics development, but I think that's too off-topic.
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u/Vegetable_Aardvark_4Feb 15 '21
By going open sourced, you are asking to be subjected to the highest of moral standards compared to closed source development. I sympathize with the monetary struggles.
It’s impossibly hard to monetize off an open sourced project and so far yuzu has been doing exceptionally well. I’m just saying that you have to taper your expectations and do it “the right way” with monetization.
From what I see there’s a discrepancy in your model. Anyone who is not participating in the development can distribute EA build, but anyone who actually contributes to the development cannot without giving up being accredited from the contribution. It’s very weird.
If you wanted to defend the EA monetization scheme and have a solid income source, you should be making early access properly proprietary in the first place. I don’t know how that would work regarding the licensing because I’m not knowledgeable enough. Anyways, best of luck to you and the yuzu team. (And you should really work on public relations. Sorry but it’s bad and doing more harm than good.)
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u/GoldenX86Yuzu Team: WriterFeb 15 '21
Thanks, and thanks for the valid criticism. I'll work on it.
It is already very hard to avoid insulting when people you don't even know, and you never harmed, go for your throat.
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u/atowerofcatsFeb 15 '21
"we won't merge it from an account that is doing something that is 100% allowed by the license we chose. also, we don't like their website :P"
u/GoldenX86Yuzu Team: WriterFeb 15 '21
Yes. That's the reason this was done.
Users from those servers come to ours posting p*rnography, trolling and being a pain in the ass.
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u/troy0hFeb 15 '21
If you tell us who those people are, we'd ban them. We don't want those kinds of people either. Most of the people who do things like that aren't from our servers
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u/vgf89Feb 15 '21
Then you don't merge it at all. It was as simple as that
